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varelishawt ([personal profile] varelishawt) wrote in [community profile] peopleofthedas2010-11-07 11:48 am

A question to you all...

I'm thinking of posting my Varel/F!Cousland stories to ff.net, but due to the nature of the stories, which are fills for DA kink meme prompts, they are, of a necessity, out of order, with only vague references to when they happen in the story's timeline. I'm currently chewing on ideas not only for requests, but for a prologue and the (action-adventure) story of just how the hell Varel has such an in with the Wardens that he knows so many of their secrets. However, I predict that I will concentrate on the pr0n first before the history.

The question, therefore, is whether I should wait until I have a proper prologue/history written and posted to ff.net first before posting the kmeme fills. What is everyone's opinions?
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Chipping in with my 2c: FFNet doesn't technically allow smut. It's why S&S isn't posted there, even though I have a lot of other fanfic on my account there. If some random jackass reported the story, it would get yanked down, taking any reviews and such with it, and I'm not sure if they yank your whole account or just the story, anymore.

Since I write S&S extreeeemely out of order, and try to keep most of the parts relatively stand-alone, I've turned it into a series on AO3. This has worked out marvelously for me so far, so I highly recommend it. You can re-order stories in the series, see hit counts on individual ones, etc etc. It creates a mini-index for just the series itself within your profile.

Plus A03 is made of win and <3. :D

I'm disgruntled that I didn't do this with Immovable Object, which really needs to be written out of order as well... but isn't really a "series" anyway, so there you go. :( Being stuck with rigid chapter order on ffnet is a serious downer.
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends what you consider much traffic, I suppose. I'm used to fandoms that haven't seen new canon material in over a decade...

With either place, you're still going to want to advertise on the various DW/LJ comms and such, just as you do now. You're going to get more people randomly finding you on FFnet, but... yeah.

FFnet also randomly deletes formatting, so that's always fun.

AO3 is rumored to be adding subscription stuff soonish, which will help. I've toyed with the idea of adding the non-smutty parts of S&S to FFnet just for the random readers myself, though. With a link to the full version, naturally.

[personal profile] tevarel 2010-11-07 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually Fan Fiction does allow smut. It has a mature section and I get more readers when I post them there.
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"Mature" is not "MA (18+)" like the site used to have before outlawing anything that fits into the category, but okay.

Myself, I'm staying wary. I've been on there for nine years and don't intend to have my crap wiped out.
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, I'm not misremembering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FanFiction.Net

Under NC-17. Yes, it's wiki, but all I'm doing is confirming something I remember happening right around when I lived in Seattle. (I coulda sworn it was during 2003, but 2002 isn't that far off.)

I'm not sitting here wagging any fingers at people, fuck knows TAF skates the M/NC-17 line reeeaaaaaally closely at various points, I'm just giving my two cents on why I haven't personally posted k!meme stuff there and am probably never going to in their entirety.

[personal profile] tevarel 2010-11-07 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll post an update if I ever get censored. I have adult DA fan fiction up there that is VERY adult and it has not been deleted. If I get deleted, I'll let everyone know.:)
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrugs?*

It may never happen. That's not really my point.

Just, folks shouldn't go on there to post k!meme stuff without knowing the technical problems with it. That site is and/or used to be super famous for just deleting the shit out of everyone and everything.

I mean, if someone was considering posting k!meme art on DevArt, you wouldn't warn them that it could get TOS'd even though there's an awful lot of smut on that site... particularly in this sparkly new fandom? :/ "Hasn't been banninated yet" doesn't reassure me much after almost a decade of being on ffnet.

Anyway, I dropped my 2c.
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[personal profile] zute 2010-11-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been using FF and so far, knock wood, haven't had any problems. I noticed that people get pretty smutty. In fact, I've been collecting the good ones as I find them into a collection called "The Steamy Bits". I'll definitely put your Varel stories in there. Rawr!

I think maybe you might want to have some sort of guide to the ordering of the stories. I was kind of wondering where your last story (where he takes an arrow for her) fits into it the time line so far. Are they in order so far?
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm probably over-cautious, but I remember the witch-hunts after smut got banned and am wary of having stuff get deleted. D: I even chopped up a chapter of TAF04 to keep the full-on smut elsewhere and pointed readers to the copy on my site.

Just in the time that I've been writing DAO fic, though, FFnet has destroyed bits of formatting for me twice. It's definitely a site one uses like the whore it is and doesn't call the next morning. >_>
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Then you'd probably be fine, formatting-wise. The two most recent times they've humped my eyesockets was

1) over my scenebreaks, a-la:

- - - - -

forcing me to replace them through-out a novel's worth of old fic with their ugly-ass, won't-space-correctly version of an <hr> tag, and

2) they changed all my --s to -. Not one big long dash, just... -. Which may not bother you, but drove me batshit. I fixed that on IO and left it alone on all the rest since I'd already added a note to each non-DA story that the formatting for various things wasn't reliable, and to see the website version if it looked garbled.

Stupid shit like that. :(

But, you already use single dashes and are fine with the <hr> tag, so you're probably okay. I don't think they've done any crazier removals than that in years and years. I'm pretty sure I remember having all of my apostrophes eaten at one point in like 2004. XD
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[personal profile] aroihkin 2010-11-07 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I should add they deleted all my scenebreaks like four times over the years, and the last two times were within the timeframe that I've been writing in Dragon Age. :( Some of my crap is made pretty incoherent without 'em.
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[personal profile] prisoner_24601 2010-11-07 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's rather unclear to me what's okay and what's not over at ff.net. There's a lot of smut posted for Dragon Age, however, so I decided to post my fics. I think there are some stories on the kmeme that if they were posted on the ff.net might get some people riled enough to actually report them for violating the TOS (things with non-con or dub-con, bestiality or underage participants), but for most fics it seems to be okay.

I haven't had a problem yet, but then again there's generally around at least 50/50 ratio of smut to story in them and my stuff is fairly vanilla. I also have a lot of shorts about the same group of four people (some fics smut, some not) that can stand alone but also part of a larger story overall. So I just created a story called "Practical Romance" and started adding them as I wrote them with a note that these were all written as stand alone fics for various prompts and challenges and that while they tied together, they were out of chronological order. It seems to have worked better than posting every single one of the individually and cluttering up my page.

Ao3 is nice (and has better features than ff.net), but I don't really bother with it anymore as the audience really can't compare. My stuff's already spread out way too much and adding another archive that doesn't really seem to have much activity doesn't seem worth the hassle.
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[personal profile] darkrose 2010-11-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't posted anything to FF.net since, oh, 2003 or so, after they yanked one of my fics because someone accused me of plagiarism. They were wrong--the story was a fictional response to another fic which I had permission from the author to write--but FF.net never responded to my emails and never apologized. The only reason I have an account there at this point is so I can comment on other authors' work.

I should note that I'm a member of the Organization for Transformative Works, so I have a definite bias in favor of AO3, but I was also around when AO3 was first proposed, and I am very much in favor of the concept of an archive created by and for fan authors and artists. Obviously, it doesn't have the readership of FF.net; it's still in beta, and it's only been really active for about a year. But in addition to the security of knowing that I can post whatever I want, and not have to worry about being reported because one of my characters is 14, or because I'm writing explicit porn involving sibling incest, I love the fact that I can download fic to my Kindle and my iThing easily. I've also noticed since I've turned the hit counter on that I'm getting a lot more traffic than I thought I was.
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Adult FF net

[personal profile] clariana 2010-11-08 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I've just joined this but I cannot for the life of me work out how to post stories under the category Dragon Age, I just get the option A-F...

Grateful for any help...
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Re: Adult FF net

[personal profile] clariana 2010-11-08 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much!!