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amhran_comhrac ([personal profile] amhran_comhrac) wrote in [community profile] peopleofthedas2011-03-30 10:21 pm

the unbearable agony of fanfiction.net

Did you know fanfiction.net is broken?
No, really!

FFnet seems to be working again.  It let me go in and edit the flagged characters on a story I uploaded using the workaround.
However, I'm still waiting on notifications for the new story, and about a dozen review notices (as well as notices for new chapters of fics I follow), so YMMV.  I don't know if the errors and issues are unrelated.



To update your existing story:
Proceed as normal, go to “my stories” in the publish section, and click edit next to the fic in question. 
You get a horrid error message, yes?
Change “property” to “content” in the URL and you’ll see the familiar update screen.  From there you’re all set.

 

If you want to post a new story things get more complex. 
Pick a random category, most have been using “dragon rage” under games since, well, close enough.  Get your description exactly how you want it, and try to include any info about the characters involved.  You can’t tag them, since you’re in the wrong category.

Upload as normal.  Click on edit in the my stories section, and change the category.  You’ll see that same ugly error, but within half an hour or so it should be in the Dragon Age section.  Once it’s there you can’t edit the description or tag characters since, hey, lookie, another fucking error.  (which is why you want to get your description right and name your characters the first go-round).

But it’ll be posted. 

 There are also alternatives if you want to wash your hands of the mess completely.


Livejournal/Dreamwidth...

pros: easy to update thanks to the rich text editor (you can just paste from your word processor), you're already here, communities for fandoms *yo*
cons: smaller reader base, isn't really set up for a fiction archive

DeviantArt
pros: wickedly easy to update if you've already posted the chapter to your documents section in ffnet.  (open it, click the HTML button, copy, and paste into the text section of DeviantArt's update.  Boom.).  Also, decent sized DA community.
cons: not as big a com as ffnet, more geared towards visual arts, no way to give a written summary/description for the search feature.  Wheat to chaff? horrifying.

Archive of Our Own
Pros: you can import from ffnet by pasting your url, additional servers have clearly solved their slow-as-molasses problems, posting new chapters is as easy as ffnet, or easier.  Also supports co-authors, tagging stories as part of a series, and a few other nice features
cons: small community, lack of feedback, importing will require you tweak each chapter since notes invariably come out a hot mess, in beta so you need to sign up and wait to get an invite (didn't take long for me, but with ffnet's issues it may be longer now)

note: anyone want an invite?  Users can apparently request extra invite codes so I'd be happy to give it a shot. 
(FYI, I'm LupusYondergirl over there)


Lunaescence
I admit, I know next to nothing about this, beyond it being 'moderated' for quality.  There's only about 50 DA stories on there now.  Anyone have an opinion?

Anyone have any opinions on these, or know of any I missed?
I know I left BSN off.  There's a reason for that... the DA2 community creation forum allows LINKING to your fan works, as opposed to the posting that was allowed in the DAO forums.  

I'm kind of falling in love with AO3 again, now that it's so much faster.  I've uploaded EVERYTHING there... and it took me maybe two hours.

[personal profile] bellaknoti 2011-03-31 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
i abandoned lj for drama reasons, and currently post here, at ao3, and ff.net. one thing i like about posting at ao3 is that i can just lift the html straight out of my dw post here, and paste it in. boom, done. all the notes and everything, all the page jumps, it all just transfers neatly. the only thing i have to type over again is the chapter title.

i haven't bothered to post anything at deviant art that wasn't actually visual art. i see a lot of people doing that, but like you said, there's no way to put a summary, so i've been leery of it. i certainly haven't read anything that people have posted there.

i'm very wary of ff.net, and only post there to catch readers who don't go other places, and to have a better idea of how many people are actually reading my stuff. for instance, my last chapter of 'wings' got one - count it, one - review here, however it's had 130 hits on ff.net. if it weren't for that, i'd think jannifer was the last person left reading, and just start emailing her the stories, honestly. it's the ff.net traffic stats that are all that keeps me going sometimes. as long as i know people are interested, i'll keep writing, but the dearth of commentary is sad. i wish there were hit counters here, too. or, ideally, more people who just said 'hey, read this, thumbs up' or 'hey, read this, whatevs' or anything else they might want to chime in with. the silence is heavy.

*ahem*

anyway, i worry about posting at ff.net, because they say that they only go up to 'm' and a lot of my stuff is 'ao'. they say that you can't post sex. >.> uh. and there are these people who like to go around being nazi's about it, and have this program to 'clean' fandoms of the smut, of things written like a script, and of things that are grammatically unfortunate. i've been worried they'll get a wild hair up their asses and purge the da fandom the same way, which would effectively gut us. so i don't treat them as my primary posting arena, i just use them as a ruler for how well my fic is actually going over in the community.

so, to sum up, i post here to be amongst my friends and peers, at ff.net to keep track of my traffic, and at ao3 because i can. i didn't know about that last place... wtf is it? i'll have to check it out. maybe we should all storm it and flood the place with awesomeness.
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[personal profile] elysium_fic 2011-03-31 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I worried about the rating restriction on ff.net as well, but so far, both Elysium (which, while toned down from RCD still contains a good deal of sex) and my Alistair/Duncan smut-epic, Sixty Days in Jader have not gotten yanked. Yet.

But yeah, it's always a worry there in the back of my mind.
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[personal profile] scarylady 2011-03-31 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
At least all the stories you have up on FF are smut (as far as I know) so if you get the plug pulled it'll be for the lot.

I'd love to put SS up there, but I won't risk endangering my outlet for T&S - not when I have approaching 400 dedicated readers over there and more ploughing through the chapters every month.

If anywhere else could compete with FF on sheer numbers I'd bail in an instant.
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[personal profile] elysium_fic 2011-03-31 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Very true. The only days this month I got less than 200 hits were March 8 and 9 (hmm, wonder why.) Non-posting days days I'm getting between 300-400 hits, and on posting days it's 500-600.

The numbers at ff.net are impossible to beat, even if the feedback doesn't do justice to the hits.
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[personal profile] scarylady 2011-03-31 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I ignore my numbers of hits, on chaptered stories. Hits are skewed by the same person reading multiple chapters, and viewers are skewed by people who go and take a quick look at Chapter 1 and then leave.

1.6k unique viewers on T&S for March and 7.3k hits, but the important number is how many people have read a recent chapter. I look at the highest figure for the month amongst the last 3 chapters and take that as my regular readership (as the most recent chapter will only be partially read at this stage). It feels like a more sane way to interpret a rather murky set of stats.


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[personal profile] elysium_fic 2011-03-31 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't dug that far into the figures. Mainly I just glance at the stats now and then to see if anyone is paying attention. I thought I read somewhere that the unique visitors figure is per person, per day, in which case it could be skewed by a single person coming back and rereading a chapter, or stopping and picking up again the next day, so I'm not certain any of the stats numbers are all that meaningful. But they are pretty.

By that method I'm getting a hair over 200 readers per chapter, which seems to be a fairly consistent figure for each of the last six chapters or so.
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[personal profile] scarylady 2011-03-31 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And therein lies the problem. FF is a pain in the arse, but who wants to lose 200 readers? Not me, that's for sure.
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[personal profile] zute 2011-03-31 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I always download a copy so if anything should happen I'd probably go to AO3. I wished AO3 had the story traffic monitor or even a dedicated audience like FF does, I'd be there in a heartbeat if they did.